Hey there here is my experience with the cranking fantasy so far

[Akann17]

Hi there

I just discovered that forum.
I also have a cranking fantasy except mine is wired mostly around women cranking motorbikes, scooters, and other two-wheels engines. I do also like when a girl is cranking a car of course (and any other gas engines, like a truck, a boat, a lawn mower, whatever) but my favorites are two-wheels engine.

I think just like a lot of you the fantasy developped in my childhood in the 90's when there was still a lot of bad starting cars around. My mom had one for a while, a neighbor had one too for quite a while. I do remember seeing people cranking scooters on a few occasions. I don't want to go too much into details about this, I worked with a few therapists the how and why the fantasy developed and now for me it's mostly stuff that belongs to the past.
What I think may be interesting to share here is why I have such a fascination for two-wheels when a lot of you guys seem to have a big fascination for old cars.
I think my fascination for two-wheel cranking comes from two distinct things.
First, as I grew up I would often fall in love with some girls in school and in my class when they were pretty. When I had puberty and I started masturbating I wanted to imagine some of those girls in my fantasy but because they were like 12, 13, 14 etc, it wasn't very realistic to imagine them with cars so I started fantasizing over them cranking mopeds and scooters. Then as I continued growing up until I was 18, whenever I could witness a girl in high school cranking something it had to be a scooter because you can't drive a car before 18 in France.
Which brings me to the second reason: the fact that I grew up as a teenager in an environment where cars were mostly working fine. Since 2000, as years passed by, most cars that came on the market just started more and more fine. No choke, no usual hard cranking in the morning, etc. Actually nowadays when I do see by chance a girl having to insist a little bit to start a car, it's quite an event. Happens maybe once or twice every two years...
So when I was a teenager (from about 2005 to 2012), most cranking scene I would witness in the street would come from mopeds and scooters (that still had a lot of difficulties starting in the winter). In those days it was quite expected and normal that in cold weather a scooter would probably not start at first attempt, the electric start would be weak and people had to kickstart, sometimes quite a lot, to get the engine running. At 16-17 years old I realized I could just find a scooter or motorbikes parking during the winter, wait for a girl to come get hers, and I could probably enjoy at least a few failed attempts. On the contrary if I were going in a car parking spot, I would often be frustrated to witness cars starting fine right from the first attempt. So I mostly fantasized on girls cranking scooters and that's what ends up arousing me a lot in the end.

When I discovered YouTube, pedaltube and other websites doing professional videos of the fantasies I becamed hooked to them. I think I must own pretty much every kickstart video carcranking.de and then pedaltube produced and I've a list of all the real life videos with cranking I could find on Youtube.

But I have always had a preference for natural, authentic real life cranking, so I've always considered online videos as secondary. With years, in my spare time, I became quite good at finding spots in cities where you would find two-wheels parkings and even quite good at spotting those where it would be more likely a girl would come (a shopping center parking rather than a construction site parking for example). I've also travelled a lot and have enjoyed witnessing quite a lot of women cranking their scooter or motorbikes in France and around the world.
If some of you have interest maybe I could share a few stories with you in the cranking section.

You would be surprised how much it is possible to fantasize over mopeds, scooters, and motorbikes. I could write about this for hours, but I just want to share a few example:
for example, if I see a girl walking alone holding a helmet, I get excited as she's probably walking towards her scooter. There's also all the other specific accessories like gloves, motorbikes clothes, etc those accessories become erotic. The helmet is also special in the way that when she has it you can't entirely see her face, and it creates excitement: what does she looks like for real? How cute is she actually without it?
Also simply the fact of seeing a girl on a an old scooter is arousing because of the probability it may not start.
There's something very sexual also in the act of kicking, especially if the girl has a nice butt, watching the back and forth movement of her butt from behind while she kicks is quite exciting from a purely sexual point of view.
I also like very much old mopeds that you have to start by pedalling as this butt and legs things is even more enjoyable. And also those tend to be sometime very hard to start.
Last but not least, I feel like two-wheels in general give more variety of pleasure: a girl cranking will go from electric start, to kick starting, to push starting, etc. There's more of a specific relationship with the engine, where you can try different things to get it started, it brings a variety of pleasure, unlike nowadays cars where it's just turning a key and that's it.

I've never really enjoyed being a "voyeur" so with time I came up with reasons to go talk to those girls and actually have a social interaction with them, like asking for the time or asking about that specific model of scooter. It took me a while but I ended up realizing the best way to have a nice social interaction is to help. So I taught myself some tricks about how to start a reluctant scooter, by reading forum and watching videos from guys in mechanic giving advice. Then whenever a woman really has a hard time I can come and help. I like being able to enjoy my fantasy from a close point of view while in the same time being actually helpful to someone. The few I had the opportunity to do that and the girl accepted my help, they said thanks and were grateful, and I must say leaving from a cranking scene with someone feeling grateful towards you feels much better than not talking and watching from afar.

Unfortunately nowadays, in 2020, even small 50cc scooters start mostly wells. A lot of the new models don't even have a kick start which removes half of the fun. Girls have less perseverance than before, if the scooter do not start they tend to call someone and have it repaired rather than fighting against it. I think planned obsolescence, throw away culture and constant early renewing of our daily tools (like smartphones) kinda make us lasy nowadays when it comes to repairing and using a tool to its very last breaths. Also electric scooter are more and more a things and there is absolutely nothing fun about them.
Also nowadays, with the "me too" movement, radical feminism, and the fear about rape that's being propagated by mass media, a surprisingly higer than I expected amount of women are scared and on their guards when you approach them in the street, even if it is to help nicely. I've been rejected quite a few times even though I always make it a point to be respectful and polite towards women I go talk to.

So yeah things are getting frustrating and I am starting to think of what next. Obviously I don't want to spend my entire life searching endlessly for Youtube video, neither do I want to spend all my money on getting all the latest video from pedaltube and other sites, neither do I want to spend all my life roaming at parking spots, to just end up being frustrated more and more anyways.
So I'm wondering how do you guys live with your fantasy? Especially you guys who love old cars with chokes, how do you deal with the fact you almost can't see any around anymore?

Also do you share your fantasy with your partner?

As of now I am single and the only girl I've been long enough in a relationship with, I was too shy at the time to tell her about my fantasy. Obviously my dream is to be in a relationship with a woman riding an old motorcycle or moped, etc. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened yet. Most women don't ride, as it is already in itself a niche thing and it is also mostly a masculine workd (from my observations it seems on average only about 20 % of the motorcycle/scooter drivers are women, at least in France). So I don't want to limit myself to only date riders. Do you think if I had a girlfriend who don't ride, she would accept to ride, let's say an old scooter with a kick start just for my own pleasure? (also considering the cost and risks involved, especially for someone who doesn't have a particular interest in it in the first place).
And if she was a biker in the first place, do you think she would understand and appreciate the fact I chose her partly for that reason? And would agree to sometimes use an old difficult to start motorbike/scooter?

Also I'd be curious to know if some of you like me have developped a particular preference for bike/scooter cranking? And how do you live with it?

Maybe those topics have been discussed before, so if you find it redundant, please point me towards the threads that are already existing.
Thanks for reading and feel free to ask questions and share your thoughts.

[CrankieMonster]

Welcome, and thanks for posting

I certainly applaud the honesty of your post, there is a lot of information shared here that many, myself included, would not have the courage to be so open about on a public forum.

That you've actually seen a therapist about this is certainly unusual, I won't press for details but I can't deny I'm certainly curious about how that went!

The stories you describe are fascinating to me, as it's in a subject matter that I'm really not particularly into myself (scooters/motorbikes) and yet, it's all so relatable - from just looking at someone you found attractive and imagining what sort of vehicle they might have, to associating all the relevant specific details of driving to your interest in their own ways.

I can also certainly relate to the ongoing march of technology where, frankly I'm not convinced reliability of cars etc. is actually on the rise at all, but the things that go wrong don't result in the pleasurable experiences of old. Certainly the expectation now is that not starting is very much a "well something's broken" scenario that discourages them from keep trying, as opposed to a not unlikely scenario in the old days. That's not to say some pretty interesting scenes don't still happen, they can, but it relies on both the unlikely event of the car, or bike etc. having a difficult start, and the driver having the mentality to keep trying it. That combination would be widespread in the old days, but now, it's certainly pretty rare, and will only keep getting rarer - fortunately, cars that are from the era I grew up in are now of the generation where, at least in other European countries, they're at throwaway prices, so tend to crop up more in pedal pumping videos than they used to. In the UK, they're becoming rarer due to scrappage incentives a few years ago. What will happen when the only cars left in substantial numbers are 2010s models and later I'm not sure. Because at 32 I'm a fair bit younger than a lot of PP fans, I always preferred what I described as 'modern cars' - however, we're now at the point where I'm starting to appreciate how people feel about new cars not giving them the same satisfaction as older ones. Once we hit around 2010-2012, I'm noticing my interest starting to wane as well, so I guess we'll just have to see how that changes over the coming years.

As far as a partner is concerned, like you, I'm single and the only partner I've been with for any length of time, I didn't discuss PP with. You seem to have a lot of courage about this sort of thing if you've offered to help people in the past, so all you can do is ask, but maybe not on the first date eh?